Roger's Turn

[laurab]

Well done babe, you really are getting into this bird keeping lark and have now got your Whydah article in print in C&A :-P

[kenny]

hi roger
i havent read it yet as i dont get my c&a while tonight but congratulations anyway

ken

[kenny]

hi roger
read your article tonight mate well done on a really good peice worthy of a true whydah keeper
:wink:


ken

[jimmy]

Excellent stuff Roger :wink:

[Savant]

Well done Roger, it will me my turn next if I ever get round to breeding anything still waiting.

Alan

[chris]

Hi Roger,

you've just gave me a reason to buy the paper

well done!

Chris

[Waxbillman]

well done Roger,

just got the paper through today

Matthew

[Karl-D]

Hi Roger well done on your article, now please don’t take this the wrong way as its not meant in a nasty way but what benefit does the article give other breeders new or old?

I have not got my copy of C&A yet so I don’t know what the article is about, I am just asking as you have not kept birds for very long and would hate for people to see the article in the wrong way of as poor standards due to not being in the fancy too long.

[laurab]

Hi Karl

Thanks for congratulating Roger on his article, even though you have not read it!

What benefit does it give to others? I would hope that no matter what little knowledge someone gleans from their birds if it can be shared, surely that is a good thing?

Roger has not professed to know all about Yellow Mantled Whydahs and has also said in the article that he has not yet managed to breed them; surely Cage and Aviary Paper is a two way street, we impart our knowledge in the hope of learning more in return.

Yes, Roger is new himself to bird keeping, but that doesn't mean to say he has not watched my many successes and unfortunately failures too; he has been the one that has built all our aviaries and has known without looking at any plan what would best suit the birds....at the cost of our garden!

Cage and Aviary reaches far more than is probably on the net, therefore to spread a little knowledge is better than none at all.

Now tell me, how and in what way has Roger failed???

[PAUL HEARN]

Hi Karl,

Perhaps it would be best if you were to comment on Rogers article after you have read it and not before!

If you don't know what the article is about, then what the hell is the point in your posting?:roll:

I know full well that your experience in Birdkeeping is far greater than Rogers, but article wise I'm pleased that Roger has managed to get an article published on Whydahs other than Budgies, and lets face it almost anyone can put together an article on Budgies.:roll:

I'm sure that any Forum member of your own would be encouraged to the hilt on their publication of articles, so I wonder what is the point of your post here, is it with the aim of causing yet another argument?

If so, then please keep your pointless comments to yourself until you can comment constructively.

Paul.

[Waxbillman]

i agree with Paul

those comments were totally un-called for, and to knock an article you haven't even read?

like Laura has said, Roger doesn't profess to know it all, but he has just shared his own experiences, which makes good reading, better than allot of writers on there who do nothing more than pick up, and copy from a book, not mentioning any names.

Matthew

[Karl-D]

Now this has been taken exactly the way I did not want it to go.
To be honest maybe I should have not expected anything different.

I was not knocking the article far from it, how could I without reading it.
My only point was so many knock C&A for many reasons the mane reason being poor quality.

Paul I wish you would think before shouting your mouth of every time, yes anybody can write an article about budgies same as anybody can write an article about any species they have had success with or even just kept, what articles have you wrote Paul.

And Matt thanks for getting on the bandwagon no doubt more will follow
:evil:

[Karl-D]

Can you please remove me from this site as I wont be coming back that’s for sure.

[laurab]

Of course I can Karl, not a problem.

[Waxbillman]

wise move Laura,

i have been more than patient with Karl in the past, but this is complety un-necessary attack on us.
He must be bored, well don't worry Karl, i'm sure you can have plenty of arguments on your own site, soon enough no do doubt, its like watching east enders on your site.

Matthew

[Karl-D]

See ya, baa baa

[Waxbillman]

Karl,

that e-mail you sent me was totally un-called for and offensive. but you like doing that to other people don't you?, and you had no right to chuck me off your forum for no reason, as an administrater you should act in a sensible manner, you are suppost to issue warnings before banning, and your only supposed to ban people if they caused trouble on your site, which i never did because i don't stoop to that level. yes sure i made a little comment up there, but it was a true comment unfortunitly, theres has been many a bickering on there, someone leaves - or threatens to leave, they come back you kiss and make up, and fra lalala your all best buddies again, just like eastenders, not like i watch such rubbish
why wait for Laura to ban you Karl?

why not just press that little cross at the top of this screen and never come back?

perhaps your staying on just a little longer, to wait for a reply from other members so you can further insult them as well.

if you thought your original post was going to sound dodgy why did you put it. Nobody else would ever think of saying something like that, ever it is totally uncalled for,

i jumped on no band wagon,

Matthew

[laurab]

Hi Matthew

instead of removing Karl-D I have banned him. If I remove him his posts go too; I want others can see what sort of person he can be.

I will not tolerate anyone sending rude and offensive private messages to other members on this site, what he said to you was not called for and frankly not something you would expect to see written by a man of his age.

[Waxbillman]

wise move Laura

this site is called feathered friends, there is no place for the foe here.

lets get back to what this site's about

Matthew

[PAUL HEARN]

Hello all,

I'm quite disappointed that my ever so good friend KD, has thrown in the towel so soon.:roll:

But for his benefit I am posting this as I'm sure at least one of his sad Lap Dogs who are still allowed to visit and post on the Feathered Friends Site and still sadly loyal to such a spanner will relay any reply to him, so here goes, Karl I'm ever so sorry for shouting my mouth off before I think,:roll: perhaps you can learn from your own advice?? But then again I doubt it?

Why did you choose to send offensive PM's to Matthew and not me?
Is it because I have grown tired of giving you the benefit of the doubt in rejoining any of your Websites, and you have chosen to attack Matthew because he chose to support your failing Websites?
Having said that, you do have my direct contact details and if you wish to use them to attack me directly then you can do so, but again you choose to attack someone of a younger age than you in the same way you chose to attack Chris D in the past.:-(

I'm ever so sorry for not sending off any articles I have wrote (or should that be written?) to C&A.:-( I tell you what I will send off a dozen articles just to keep you happy and not waste the pages of C&A as Roger has done with one article.

Feathered Flyer must have really got through to you at long last that any of your sad anticts will no longer be tolerated, so obviously whenever the boredom facter hits you, then you choose another target.

Karl I hope for your sake that one day you manage to get a life in a way that avoids attacking others for no reason at all, but then again I seriously doubt that this would be enough in keeping your very empty life alive?

KD the end is nigh, RIP.

Paul.

[jimmy]

But for his benefit I am posting this as I'm sure at least one of his sad Lap Dogs who are still allowed to visit and post on the Feathered Friends Site and still sadly loyal to such a spanner will relay any reply to him,


:roll: :roll:

[laurab]

Hi all

This morning I received tis email from BBIA

Hello, Laura

You account on British Birds in Aviculture has been blocked.

The reasons for this can be numerous, this final warning is received because of this post http://www.british-birds-in-aviculture.info/1.5/all_british_bird_forum/viewtopic.php?p=6555#6555 (http://www.british-birds-in-aviculture.info/1.5/all_british_bird_forum/viewtopic.php?p=6555#6555) that you have made.
If you don't see why you've recived this warning you could try contact Karl-D, who gave the warning, explaining your post,
and that you don't understand why this warning was given.


--
Thanks, The BBIA Team

As a rare visitor to the site the only post I can ever recall posting was a question about Starlings!

Karl is not even man enough to say he doesn't want me as a member of BBIA because of what has happened here.
.

[Waxbillman]

same happened with me Laura, and others in the past. he has blocked you for no reason at all, and ad admin he is not allowed to do this, i think if i remember correctly you can complain to theserver or summut, which can result in the closing of the site. we have evidence of Karl doing this before.
but lets not make others suffer just because of the actions of that man

Matthew

[Rogerb]

hiya members of feathered friends just to thank you all for your posts I relay do appreciate them all . I did the best I could with the limited knowledge I have I am over the moon that you have backed me to the hilt thank you all roger b

[laurab]

I have been re-instated on BBIA

[Waxbillman]

oh right, that threat most of worked then,

i don't think i have though

Matthew

[kenny]

hi all
i am back after a very tiring weekend my sheds are both up but i have not got the felt on yet but that will be done tommorrow,and i wll be posting pics later,thats if in the meantime i dont get accused of being an ametuer photographer trying to be david bailey......i always miss all the trouble but on this occasion i am glad as i dont think my opinion on karls comments about rogers article would be printable i would be banned off the internet with what i think i am really sorry roger that i was not hear to defend you along with the others

ken:twisted:

[webmaster]

whos david bailey?

[laurab]

Hey Carl...I think he means Laura Bryant LOL:D :-D

[PAUL HEARN]

Hello Jimmy,

From your reply I hope that I haven't offended you personally, if I have then please let me know,:-| my comment wasn't aimed at anyone in particular.

Paul.

[chris]

i'll get back to this at dinner time but i can say i'm pretty P***** off!

Chris

[kenny]

hi chris
so am i as i said i was not here to defend roger which really annoys the hell out of me ,on reflection he is not worth the typing just to get down to his sad level


ken

[chris]

Hi all,

firstly, the shop hasn't had the paper yet so i haven't got a copy of the article, although i assume it is the one posted on here a while ago? hopefully they'll have a copy now so i can go n buy it.

i've now had chance to read through the whole topic and it seems to me to be SSDD as usual. while i think i can see what Karl was asking, it was very badly worded and given past incidents probably done deliberately so to cause yet another arguement. however, he should have forseen this so if he really didn't want to cuase trouble the ideal answer would be to buy the article, read it, then ask questions. Or re-word it so that it cannot be taken in the wrong way.

either way his reaction is not suprising at all and is the same old same old, irresponsible and immature. there was no reason whatsoever to block laura from BBIA all she has done is carry out Karl's wishes. there is also no reason to ban Matthew either as he hasn't done anything on BBIA that warrants a ban! the offensive e-mail sent doesn't prove anything other than how much of an irresponsible Admin he is. i am still an active member of BBIA, maybe i've been missed or it's because i happened to be offline for a few days.

i think that Karl has been very lucky in that he hasn't been banned already from Feathered Friends, and i for one wont miss him at all.

over the year(s) there have been a number of incidents involving Karl and i have been keeping track, see below:

1) Banning Paul from the original BB for reasons i am unaware of, but then banning Laura for being paul's mate!

2)accusing a member of FF3 of being a paedophile on an open forum resulting in a ban. sending the same member abusive e-mails, then stopped after recieving a letter from this member's solicitor.

3) attacking another member of FF3 who clearly has/had some sort of mental problem at the time.

4) banning Dave from CNAI for falling for the lies of the above and defending him, despite the fact the above had nothing at all to do with CNAI

5) after the above i asked to be removed from CNAI as i had seen enough. this then resulted in the FB being deleted, my account on BBIA being deleted and Paul's account for defending me on here. stiring trouble on here to get a response, and sending abusive e-mails to myself which i still have (saving it for a rainy day:twisted: ). during the whole time nothing was mentioned to the other admin on BBIA about my account being deleted there, i re-registered and soon had the pm system blocked which took a while to get fixed via the other admin, who said it had been done from the inside which was 'odd'.

6) banning kenny from CNAI for supposedly promoting this forum via pm. yet this has never been a problem on any other forum as i am guilty of promoting FF3 and BBIA without concequences. also karl continues to advertise his own forums on here without any questions. Also kenny recieved abusive e-mails from Karl.

7) the current situation. unprovoked attack on Roger, blocking Laura for doing what he himself asked! (now sorted apparently), banning matthew from BBIA without reason. slagging off previos targets wherever the chance arises.

if anyone has copies of any abusive/offensive material from Karl i would like a copy, PM me for my e-mail address. i think it's about time something was done about this nutcase

Chris

[PAUL HEARN]

Hi Chris,

Many thanks for highlighting some of the very sad antics of Karl Duckworth, promoter of Aviculture and basically a great guy.;)

Sadly the information you have is only the tip of the proverbial Iceberg, and could be added to ten fold, even more sad fact's are that many people have been, and are still willing to give this Muppet a chance to prove that his is of an age to use sharp edged scissors without a grown up being present.:shock:

On a personal level I'm quite concerned that Blue Peter could be heading towards a serious court case regarding the person in question.:sad:

I just hope that poor old Shep doesn't turn in his grave knowing that someone out there is in charge of sharp scissors that could result in a mindless idiot cutting himself.:sad:

Paul.

[laurab]

I think enough has been said on this subject now.

If you feel the need to discuss it further please do so in the meeting room. ;)