important, please read

[Waxbillman]

hello all

as you know with much of the bad press in the media, we have decided to do something about it, i urge all who can to attend.

all this has been pasted from ff3

plan B. of the actions that we are taking

"Plan B is not suppsed to be a protest. It's about arranging for as many people as possible to visit the Daily Mail on the same day with a copy of the article plus the article from last saturday's Mail. The idea is to request the Mail to print it in response to sue Reid's report. This will put the editor in a very awkward position, because he'll be faced with an article which a lot of people want printed. At the same time we'll be tipping off the rest of fleet street newspapers and TV news stations about what we're doing. They will turn up wanting to report why hundreds of bird lovers are quieing up outside the Daily mail headquarters. We'll then tell them thats it's beacuse they wont print our article. So they'll want to know what article. So we show them. The news and story for them will be 'bird breeders from all over the country.... etc etc. They will then report on the article we wanted printed which the Daily Mail didn't. They'll also want to interview you and ask why you're out there and you can have your chance to tell them why. This will make BBC and HTV news - as well as fleet street newspapers - so the article will eventually be printed with all the contraditions you made to Sue Reid's report. So

"Saturday the 26th November as most people seem to prefer a weekend and it will take that long to organise. Please can everyone who is willing to go and support our case in having our voice heard over the bad publicity Staffiord recently had. Please add your name and (optional contact details). I would say a good time would be 12 O'clock midday outside the Daily Mail offices with copies of the articles. If anyone got other suggestions they'd be very welcome. It's important that we get as many people as we can to attend or it will just flop so please let as many people know as you can. You can contact me anytime on my mobile number 07834872749 and anyone else willing to act as an organiser will be very much appreciated. Please can you all try your best and add this event to as many forums as you can find" Sue (bluebird ff3 2005)

Matthew

[chris]

i would go but i really don't think i'll have any way of getting there

looks good when the person who practically wrote half the article can't show up to get it published:roll:

Chris

[Waxbillman]

its ashame Chris

but you can't help it.

Matthew

[PAUL HEARN]

Hello Matthew,

Thank you for posting this, I will read through the proposal on FF3, the reasons why it is believed this will work in our favour and the reaction to the proposal on FF3.
I am very much prepared to support any action that will work in favour of Birdkeepers in the UK, or anywhere else for that matter, but I'm quite sceptical that this action will work in our favour?

Paul.

[PAUL HEARN]

Hi Chris,

Please don't take my last post the wrong way mate, I'm gutted you can't make it in person to stand up for your own words, but I'm not convinced that this action will work in our favour without asking one or two questions from the person who thinks this is the way to make our voice heard in a possitive way.

Paul.

[PAUL HEARN]

Chris,

On another note,

Surely there will be someone who could pick you up on route to take you to this event?

Paul.

[Waxbillman]

thanks Paul

the effective ness depends on the number of supporters there, we will certainly achieve somthing, if only satisfaction that we have pulled the finger out and done something to help protect the credibilty of our hobby as you know its a massive chain under threat. its like a huge mightly tree in the amazon, it stands strong, and survives much attack, however it soon falls when the chain saw eats its way through the base of the trunk, its the same i think with our hobby they are attacking at the bottom, our credibilty amongst other things

Matthew

[PAUL HEARN]

Hello Matthew,

I have checked out and posted on the thread on FF3, the response was pathetic from FF3 members, but the biggest threat to the idea was how public the it was.

The fact is that the AR are looking in on any ideas we may have and will attend with far larger numbers of people than we can manage due to apathy amongst Birdkeepers.
The voice of the AR will be far louder than ours, until others realise that we need to shout louder than the AR in a bid to win against them.

If an idea such as Sues can work, it will depend on an organised attack from Birdkeepers in a private and secretive manner.

Paul.

[Waxbillman]

hello Paul

have a look at Sue's response........

its not a protest or a march, its just simply handing the article that she professionally typed, based largely on Chris's excellent article.

one person could hands in an article yes, but by coming out in numbers means we are serious about it getting printed extra.... any way take a look at it.

Matthew

[Karl-D]

Hi Matthew, on the surface this would be a very positive move, which is probably way over due on FF3.

I am with Paul in thinking way to public, probably anybody and everybody knows about this now.

Another area I am concerned about is with Sue her self; she has literally come from knower with these big ideas.

Its probably just me putting 2+2 together and getting 666 per usual.:-|

[chris]

Hi Karl,

someone is looking into Sue to check she is legitimate and not an AR activist, she is also a member on a parot forum which has been checked and confirmed. Only time will tell, personally i don't think she is AR but who can say for certain, no one on here has ever met me so for all you know even i could be AR... you'll have to take my word for it that i aren't:-)

who know's just how far the AR are willing to go to get people on the inside?

Chris:?

[Waxbillman]

i think that Sue
is definately genuine and knows her stuff, i have spoken to her today.

Matthew

[PAUL HEARN]

Hello Matthew,

What Sue is proposing is something of a stand from Birdkeepers, this may, or may not be worded or termed as a protest by Birdkeepers, but in my view it is in fact a protest, of which I'm more than willing to support!!

I will be there on the day if I think it will make a difference towards protecting our hobby!

I also believe that we need to take a stand against the Bulls**t published by the Press in their deperate bid to sell Papers to make money, but I don't think Sue's approach is the right one.

As you have asked me to, I will read Sue's response to my post on FF3, and reply back here as well as FF3.

Paul.

[Karl-D]

Hi fellas, hope it all goes well, I really do, I guess with all the crap that’s gone on its getting harder to trust, you never know were these nut wipe AR people are.



You’re doing a grand job of getting the word out Matthew.

[PAUL HEARN]

Hello Matthew,

This protest or presentation is doomed mate, walk away and forget about it.
I'm certain the unknowing public will do so, given time.

Paul.