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Waxbillman
07-01-2005, 07:03 PM
The strawberry finch (Amandave amandava) by Matthew Guest

The Strawberry finch is also known as the Red avadavat, Red munia, Tiger finch and in past the Bombay avadavat. it is around 10 cm in lengh, though there are about 3 sub-species all over which slightly differ in size.
2 of the sub-species are found through out southern parts of Asia, India and Pakistan, the other is found in parts of China though it is extremerly rare in aviculture today, though i have the plesure of owning a male of the sub-species (amandava a. flavidiventris) who is quite a large bird who has many more white spots, which are larger in size, and spreads over more of the body. the red is more pink in colour had he have more orange / yellow.
Red avadavsts are unique in the estridid family as the male goes through the eclipse plumage when out of condition and resembles some what like the female, though some birds will retains small patches of red.
both sexes are capable of singing though the males is far better and more often than the females.
when ing condition the malles are a brilliant red speckles with white spots, the female lack the bright red and have just a few small spots on her wing's. the female being overall she is a dull olive brown colour.
due to avian flu, the importation has been totally stopped which meansthat they are very few birds about in Britain, and in the USA there is more but spread out widely. prices in the UK are £30 to £45 a pair and this will probabily stay for many years to come. in the USA i have seen some crazy prices, from about $75 to $125 a pair.
my advice to anyone wanting to start up with these birds is join a specialist waxbill/finch society as there a few member to my knowledge keeping and breeding these birds, myself included.
Strawberries will breed happily once sexually mature in both large cages and planted aviaries. In my experience they are quite a peaceful bird and so ideal to go in mixed collections with birds such as Gold-breasts, and Black-crowns. its not recommended to house more than 1 pr of red birds (be them Strwberries or be them firefinches) however this is somewhat debatable.
Strawberries are tough birds but they still require some extra heating and lighting during the winter months, i prefer to lock all my birds in indoor quarters for the winter as this method is far safer.
feed them a good quality foriegn finch mix with added wild-seed., cuttlefish bone and oyster shell grit should be provided at all times. when breeding occurs they should have an ample supply of livefoods in the form of buffalo worms and fruit flies, as well as fresh, clean seeding grasses and soaked seed if you use the stuff.
my birds have always built they own messy nests out of long grasses and coconut fibre, but i do know many who breed them in those domed nesting pockets.
incubation days are about average for finches 12-14 days, and fledging occurs after 21 days, the chicks start to cloloure up after a month or two, but it will be some time before it is completed.

the forum especially for Strawberry finches is on the yahoo groups page, i think this is it http://groups.yahoo.com/group/StrawberryFinch/ there hasn't been much activity in weeks but all it takes is a new members to fire up the burners and it ill get it goin again i'm sure

matthew

Ldywlf
07-05-2005, 08:59 PM
Hi I'm new here.

My name is Roxie and I live in Colorado which is located in the USA. I recently bought a pair a Stawberries from a friend, they were sitting on eggs and continue to do so. A couple days they were on and off but still they would sit for 2 hours at a time. I haven't found much of anything in the way of fruit or veggies that they like, any ideas? And how long do the birds actually sit, I heard 12 to 14 days. And I have a divider cage I would like to put them in it's 23 inches long by 16 inches wide and 16 inches tall. Is this a good or bad idea? I can always put in the divider. Should I add cover as they are shy when they have eggs or are nesting. This is the first bird I've had that likes privacy, what uh hoot!!! Please tell me anything I should know. And if the webmaster see's this please tell me how to work your site....I can't get msgs. to delete and posting can only be done by answering someone elses post. I am so computer dumb. LOL Have a great day where ever you are !!!!!:grin:

Waxbillman
07-05-2005, 09:14 PM
hello there Roxie


welcome to this friendly site.
you are right about the incubation times, and fledging takes 21 days in my experience.
though strawberries have bred in that size cage i would recommend a larger size to keep their fitness etc. they will definatly need privacy in the form of artifical plants, or pot plants such as ficus.
i also put cover on the outside of the cage where the nests are to stop them seeing you, then they usually continue incubation, ensure a good supply of livefood, and eggfood. i know people who feed broccili to them, i provide cress and nastursiums
matthew

Ldywlf
07-05-2005, 10:11 PM
Thank you very much for the info I can hardly wait to get them in the other cage.As for the previous owner breed them in a very tiny cage not even fit for a bird....I don't dare move them they won't survive if I do, I mean I'll loose the eggs. I will do as you have suggested, thank you again.

Roxie

jimmy
07-23-2005, 03:25 PM
Hi Matthew,

you mentioned in your C & A weekly column ;), that the strawberry finch cock bird has a nice song, what is it comparable to ie: canary, goldfinch ect.

thanks

Jimmy

Waxbillman
07-23-2005, 04:32 PM
hey Jimmy, i'm no good at describing songs, but all i can say is that it is the best in the finch world, even the female's can sing sometimes.

matthew

Ldywlf
09-03-2005, 07:42 PM
New Post...Was wondering if anyone knows how to cure Aspen Tree Branches for pet birds....such as Strawberries and other finches. And my finches do like to peck at things just to check it out so I was concerned about that also. I did try searching the net but not very much or listing were very vague. These Aspen Branches have never been treated with anything so that part is good. I hear you can , microwave, put them in oven and soak them in diluted clorox but nothing came with exzact instructions. Good news...I have all my finches on eggs each have four. they are Society, Zebra, Strawberry and Bronze Winged Mannikins. I can hardly wait til they hatch. I have only 4 pairs of birds but I'm very happy with them. Have a great day.
Roxie in Colorado,USA

Waxbillman
09-03-2005, 07:59 PM
Hello Roxie,

i'm glad to hear that all your birds are sitting, i wish them all luck, when you say 'cure' what do you mean by this?

matthew

Ldywlf
09-03-2005, 08:11 PM
"Curing" is a process in which would make outside tree branches safe for pet birds to use. "Curing" can be anything like cleaning the surface with specific agents, cooking in an oven or microwave oven. Only certain tree branches are considered "safe" to use in this process so long as the tree has never been sprayed with any kind of toxic chemical. "Natural" tree branches are considered to be much better for birds because of the natural way a branch grows. Boy this may sound to scientific or just plain dumb. ;-) Anyway if I can find no sorce I'll just buy the ones in the store. Thanks everyone, and Matthew for replying.:grin: Roxie in Colorado,USA

Waxbillman
09-03-2005, 08:27 PM
thanks for that Roxie, i though it might mean something like that.

well because you are in America i'm not sure what is safe or not, if you look further on in the forum there is quite a big list of what plants are toxic and what are not, it may have relevence.

i have never gone to such lengths as you describe to get natural perching, all i do is go out into the fields and chop some branches off in a place free from pesticide use, or i grow my own, once i have chopped it to the required length i scrub it down thoroughly with a mixture of water and disinfectant. if i see the slightiest trace of bird muck or owt else i don't use the branch.

matthew

Ldywlf
10-02-2005, 10:27 PM
My Strawberry female passed away just about a month ago....went to a bird show and found another female the same age as the male. But she seems skidish of the male....will this pass??? I know its only been a day...others finches I've had took up to two weeks...but are Strawberries any different? Please let me know if I should be worried.

Roxie in Colorado

Pyxel
10-03-2005, 10:50 AM
Colorado eh? Do you know Mary Ellen the bail bondswoman in Denver?:smile:

Waxbillman
10-03-2005, 04:41 PM
hello Roxie.

sorry to hear she died, the new female is bound to be abitlike that, give them time and they should soon bound, as hopefully the male should have got over the other one's death. perhaps provide more cover for her, to reduce her stress levels.

matthew

jimmy
10-03-2005, 07:48 PM
Colorado eh? Do you know Mary Ellen the bail bondswoman in Denver?:smile:

pyxel, :smile: :smile: :smile:

PAUL HEARN
10-04-2005, 09:38 PM
Hello Roxie,

I'm sorry to hear you lost your hen Strawberry Finch, my advice to you would be to place the cock with the new hen after she has time to get used to her new quarters, then she may take to the cock sooner.

Paul.:wink: