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kenny
09-01-2006, 09:17 AM
hi paul
looked like you got your bottom well and truly smacked by the guy who wrote the letter in this weeks c&a,complaining about your tribute letter about dorset birds closing...i dont think he like you mate
ken
PAUL HEARN
09-01-2006, 10:52 PM
Hi Ken,
Many thanks for pointing this out mate, to be honest I completely missed this letter, it seems obvious that I should read our fabulous hobby's only publication, letter for letter from now on!:roll:
My letter to Cage and Aviary was meant only as a short but sweet tribute and thank you to Dorset Birds for the excellent service they have provided up until the time they had to call it a day.:-(
But thanks to Mike Ratten from Herefordshire he has trashed this small gesture, in the past I have avoided confrontations in the pages of Cage and Aviary Birds, but on this subject you can fully expect a retaliation.:x
This Tit has got his views well and truly confused on the state of the hobby before and after the interference of the AR on the state of our hobby.
I agree that the AR are responsible in part for waking up a hobby that was complacent with the faults whithin it.
But Mr Ratten also contradicts himself throughout his letter, in hindsight the certain Bird Sales he speaks of had flaws too,:oops: but hey this idealist sees fit to attack others when his own facts are far from perfect.
Ken,
Thanks again for pointing out something I had missed mate, I just hope Cage and Aviary will print my replies?
Paul.
Rogerb
09-01-2006, 11:06 PM
I read the letter in c a by mr ratten I thought it was hard to follow what he had to say , perhaps he lives in a perfect world IM GLAD I DONT :D paul IM sorry that he poo pood your letter whitch I know came from the hart mate but thousands read it and didnt :D :D :D
PAUL HEARN
09-01-2006, 11:19 PM
Hi Roger,
Thanks mate!:wink:
But as far as I'm concerned this guy has many questions to answer, and he is British Telecom in his comments.:???:
Paul.
Diane
09-02-2006, 11:33 AM
I was appalled by this guy's rant - what a prat! I think Paul's original tribute to Dorset Birds was wonderful and much appreciated by all.
Mr. Ratten, on the other hand, came across as a rambling idiot!
PAUL HEARN
09-02-2006, 07:25 PM
Thanks Diane,
I just need to write and e-mail my reply before Monday with the hope it will be published in this next weeks edition.
Paul.
kenny
09-02-2006, 07:55 PM
hi paul
i always read the letters thoroughly as that were i get my letter fodder from and your name jumped out at me when i read that very badly worded and stupid letter i was also going to send one in objection to him slagging one of our members off let alone a perfectly worded tribute to a couple of people that iddint know personally but i have never heard a bad word against its people like him putting comments in c&a that makes people sick and i am sure yours will not be the only letter sent in mate good luck
ken
PAUL HEARN
09-02-2006, 09:34 PM
Hi Ken,
Sadly I think mine will be the only reply to Mike Rattens rant (possibly apart from R.Turner), as you say he has attacked a couple who are innocent of the accusations he has made.
Dorset Birds projected a possitive image on how the trade of birds should be done correctly and in a possitive way forward for our hobby.
Mr Rattens rant has infuriated me on a personal level and because his views are sadly way outdated.
Paul.
laurab
09-03-2006, 12:21 AM
I have taken M.Rattan's rant as a slur on Dorset Birds and I will have something to say on this matter!
I do wonder if they will print it all...including my 'web' address!
Diane
09-03-2006, 11:45 AM
Well, I've just written back to Cage and Aviary - we'll see what gets printed.
PAUL HEARN
09-04-2006, 06:38 PM
Hi Laura and Diane,
Good on you both,:wink: I hope at least one of our replies will be printed, but fingers crossed they all will.
Roll on Thursday.
And thanks again Ken for pointing out the letter from our new friend Mr Ratten.
Paul.
kenny
09-04-2006, 09:56 PM
hi paul
no probs mate glad to be of help especially when people are slagging our members off
ken
PAUL HEARN
09-05-2006, 07:47 PM
Hi Ken,
We at Feathered Friends can all rest easy knowing that 'The Daddy' is watching our back!! And as always as the forums best asset you are doing a damn good job mate. Never mind Cage and Aviary, Laura should be paying you!
Paul.:D
chris
09-06-2006, 08:43 AM
I've just read that letter in C&A having only bought the paper yesterday, i really can't see what the prat is on about :shock: what's dorset birds and paul got to do with any of the points he has?
maybe i should have sent in a reply to him "IDIOT!!!"
we wil see what thursday brings
Chris
laurab
09-06-2006, 09:58 AM
Paul
surely having access to this website is reward enough! :-D
PAUL HEARN
09-06-2006, 09:40 PM
Hi Chris and Laura,
Chris,
Depending on what gets published this week, and possibly next week in C&A, you may still have an opportunity to send in your views on this topic?:D
Laura,
Sorry mate,:roll: you are right in what you say, I forgot Ken is being rewarded already.:lol:
Paul.;)
kenny
09-07-2006, 09:49 AM
hi paul/laura
you are right being on here is reward enough..
ken
PAUL HEARN
09-07-2006, 08:31 PM
Hi everyone,
Obviously I'm grateful that Cage and Aviary printed my reply today to Mr Rattens letter from last week's issue. But I am very disappointed that they didn't do the same with the letters that both Diane and Laura sent in to them.:-(
I had hoped that what could have been done today was that in Cage and Aviary Birds printing the replies from the three of us, it may have shamed Mr Ratten into keeping his gob shut in the future. Laura, Diane, myself and I'm sure many others, saw this idiots rambling letter as an unwarranted slur on the past reputaion of Dorset Birds.:x
Cage and Aviary did trim my letter a little though (I dont think they could devote a whole page for one letter only). The fact is I was damned annoyed by his comments directed towards Mr Turner too, in doing so I believe he had attacked the majority of people within the hobby.
He stated, "many members of cage bird societies choose to attend sales, and show very little regard for the purpose of the society as an organisation that is there to educate and give interest to people who want to learn about birds".
Is he saying that because some of us don't attend monthly meetings that may, or may not have a booked speaker to educate us, that we are less serious about our hobby?:x
They also chose not to print my comments concerning the huge costs involved in traders paying for their stands at the National, I mentioned that without dealers paying out huge sums of money for their stands at the National that the ticket price may be at least treble what it used to be?
I wonder why this wasn't included?:shock:
Paul.
kenny
09-07-2006, 09:11 PM
hi paul
they always chop them down for some reason,but some of them they print the whole letter and you just get tired of reading them as they are far to long so they just pick the best bits out!yhey have done it to all of mine and as you know they are not very long..but ay least you got a chance to defend yourself,its a pity laura and diane didn`t get theres printed as it would have lent more wheight to the subject....but you could have mentioned the website mate.......shame on you
ken:roll:
laurab
09-07-2006, 09:19 PM
Hey Kenny, that's probably why mine didn't get printed.....I mentioned the web site :shock: :lol:
kenny
09-07-2006, 09:33 PM
hi laura
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: probably
ken
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